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January 26, 2003
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German leftist fascist hates America and Israel

Since I created FactsOfIsrael.com 6 months ago, I have received my fair share of hate mail. Many of these messages come from the Islamic fascists who call me an "infidel" and send me death threats (just look in the Hate Mail section for more examples).

After a while, it gets pretty boring: it's the same brainwashed-neo-Nazi "kill the Jews" bile that the Imams from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Gaza spit every week.

Sometimes though, the leftist fascists from Europe will also suprise me. Today I received an email from a German who goes by the name of Kiewitz (kiewitz@netlabs.org). This guy managed to squeeze all anti-American and anti-Israeli cliches in one message. Here's an example:

I'm German and I'm not proud of our history. I'm sick of it. But I'm even more sick by people that talk like racists and enjoy other people to die.

I'm also sick of evil states like US that want to go to war, because of economic reasons. Islam is 100% okay. It's just extremists (that exist everywhere, not just in Islam) that are no good. [...]

I hope your country will get bombed as well in that manner. And then I will make such funny comments about those bombings. Perhaps this will make you understand.

Kiewitz, whom I'll refer to from now on as the "leftist fascist", was not happy about a video I published that shows how American forces attacked an Islamic terrorist camp in Afghanistan - click here for that story.

Read this my little leftist fascist: the German Nazis, your people, managed to murder 6 million Jews during World War II and the Holocaust. If you do the math, that's 30,000 Jewish men, women and children PER DAY! On bad days, it would go as high as 50,000-60,000 human beings deliberately killed PER DAY.

The next time you're watching B. München, Bayer Leverkusen, or any other German soccer team, look closely at the people in the stadium. Then, imagine the German Nazis going around the stands shooting at every one of them - all 30,000 in one day, all men, all women, all chidlren.

And you have the audacity to attack me because I support America's war on Islamic terrorism? Let me tell you what I think of your friends from Al-Qaeda, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and any other Islamic terrorists that, similarly to your Nazi ancestors, deliberately murder women and children.

The only value they'll have is when they become fertilizer and are buried underground.

If you'd like to send a message to the German leftist fascist to let him know what you think, his email address is kiewitz@netlabs.org.

I'm not finished, see below for the fascist's full message and the rest of my rant.

German leftist fascist hates America and Israel
Message from Kiewitz, a brain dead German leftist fascist.

For the record, here's the full text of the leftist fascist message:

-----Original Message----- From: Kiewitz [mailto:kiewitz@netlabs.org] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 2:23 AM To: remarks@factsofisrael.com Subject: ...

I just entered your site by accident, because it was mentioned as "2nd link" to some video, where civilians are killed by US.

Well, then I read your comments and I really think that your site is disgusting. Especially the user-made comments about that video. It's just sick. You don't even know *if* those were terrorists, they could be just normal civilians and you made somewhat "funny" comments about it. In any case those were *human*
*people* made by *god*. And they were killed without a trial nor anything, so actually they were innocent.

Also you are stating that those would have "killed woman and children". How do you know? There is nothing in there to proof that point of view, damn it. It's kinda sick that especially YOU (which means a jewish site) talk in such a racist way. I'm German and I'm not proud of our history. I'm sick of it. But I'm even more sick by people that talk like racists and enjoy other people to die. I'm also sick of evil states like US that want to go to war, because of economic reasons. Islam is 100% okay. It's just extremists (that exist everywhere, not just in
Islam) that are no good. If you don't like other religions to exist, then YOU are an extremist as well.

If your site is somewhat official and not made by some retarded freak, I hope your country will get bombed as well in that manner. And then I will make such funny comments about those bombings. Perhaps this will make you understand. On the other side, I bet you wouldn't even understand that.

cu, Kiewitz

Ok, let me address some of the fascist's questions:

I just entered your site by accident, because it was mentioned as "2nd link" to some video, where civilians are killed by US.

See, there's your first mistake my leftist fascist freak. The US, contrary to the German Nazis and the Islamofascists, will not deliberately target civilians. This was a terrorist camp in Afghanistan - I know it due to the source of the video. A camp belonging to Al-Qaeda, the group that murdered 3,000 men, women and children in New York on 9/11/2001. You seem to care more about the lives of a dozen Islamic terrorists than about the lives of 3,000 Americans - that's typical intolerance and hypocrisy from the European fascist left.

Well, then I read your comments and I really think that your site is disgusting. Especially the user-made comments about that video. It's just sick. You don't even know *if* those were terrorists, they could be just normal civilians and you made somewhat "funny" comments about it. In any case those were *human* *people* made by *god*. And they were killed without a trial nor anything, so actually they were innocent.

I think you are disgusting, leftist fascist fresk. You take no responsibility for what the German Nazis did, but I will NEVER FORGET. And believe me, my children and their children will NEVER FORGET as well. I will also never forget the fact the the United States, which you call "evil", is the country that liberated France and Germany from Hitler - and you can only send your messages in freedom through the Internet today because of that.

As for your point that they are not terrorists, I already covered that. But just to make sure you understand what I think of Bin-Laden, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Chechnean Muslims that attacked Russia, the Islamic terrorists that attacked Bali and any other Islamic fascist friends you call "human people made by God", let me repeat it:

The only value they'll have is when they become fertilizer and are buried underground.

I am not racist, I have many Arab and Muslim friends. I am sick and tired of racism and intolerance coming from the European left and the Islamic fascists, and I do judge people by their acts. After deliberately murdering thousands of innocent women and children, the Islamic terrorists from above have excluded themselves from humanity, just like your German Nazi ancestors did.

If your site is somewhat official...

Apparently, you don't even know how to read, you European leftist fascist moron. Here's what you can find on the front page of FactsOfIsrael.com: "FactsOfIsrael.com is not affiliated with any government, company, or institution. This is simply a personal attempt to give information on Israel and the Middle East."

I hope your country will get bombed as well in that manner. And then I will make such funny comments about those bombings.

I wouldn't expect anything less from a German leftist fascist.

Posted by David Melle at January 26, 2003 10:09 AM
Comments

i am a muslim, and i like you dont favour any of the extremists you have mentioned. i am a muslim and like you i must defend my people. There are no doubt wrongdoers in every society including yours. Upon reading your response to the german i would simply like to say that you seem more intelligent than to use insulting comments such freak, moron etc. I enjoy reading different opinions on such matters and will continue to do so but just try and display your opinion in a calm and educated tone, refrain from using insulting, meaningless words, which really do your otherwise reasonable comments an injustice, ok chief, laterz.

Posted by: momin on January 27, 2003 06:41 AM

Hi Momin,

Thanks for the comments - you have a point.

But the leftist fascist really got on my nerves.

He shows an intolerance and disrespect for certain human life (American and Israeli women and children), while at the same time he supports the murderers from Al-Qaeda and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad for political reasons.

It's hipocrisy at its best and a it of "freak" or "moron" was appropriate while referring to the leftist fascist jerk.

Thanks for reading, and good luck.

Posted by: David Melle on January 27, 2003 08:10 AM

Hi David,
I have one comment on your reply to Mr. Keiwitz.
You said:
"I think you are disgusting, leftist fascist fresk. You take no responsibility for what the German Nazis did, but I will NEVER FORGET. And believe me, my children and their children will NEVER FORGET as well".

David, Applying the same logic to what you have said the Japanese should never forget what the americans did in Heroshima and Nagazaki nor should the Vitnamese forget what the Americans did to their country. The Christians should never forget that the Jews were the ones who handed Jesus Christ to the Romans and therefore caused his death. Where do you think this will take us??

David, such generalizations only promotes hatred. I am sure you know that everyone should be held accountable for their own views and actions so accordingly not "all Germans are Nazis" not "all Muslims are terrorists" and not all "Israelis are victims" such cliches are simply meaningless.

Mr. Keiwitz, It is not acceptable to call "Americans" evil. Please try to differciate between "the American people" who have very little to do with foreign policy and the government policies which you obviously disagree with.

God bless,

Diana

Posted by: Diana on February 3, 2003 06:25 AM

Please listen to Diana and momin, you're attitude will never lead to peace in israel unless all palistinians are killed of deported. and then you would be no better than the nazis. the german was wrong to say he wanted your country bombed, but remember at the very least he did say that is if your site was official (and he should have noticed it isnt). He is also wrong to call america evil, and still wrong to call the administration evil just because of a difference of opinion, but calling him a fascist i strongly disagree with. Chill out a bit, i know it must be hard after living in a country constantly threatened by terrorism but reacting with the hardline approach will not solve anytihng.

Posted by: david smith on February 20, 2003 01:20 AM

obviously the german piece of s* has no idea what the f* they are talking about. they hate america because we are all that they are not. F* OFF

Posted by: mike on March 11, 2003 05:08 PM

Hey,
I'm a Jew living in Germany. Born here, raised here...and my family here ever since. And yes, suffered a great deal. Now, what do you call me?
To Mike, the latter post - I will not get down to your poor level. You're making such a mistake in taking one for all. This was one mail, sent by one individual. There are many strange through to sick people...EVERYWHERE. Actually, I think the poster got as much excited about the video and the comments as the replyer got by the hate mail, no?
What I see here are notices written under the influence of super-high level of stress hormones, and such (re-)actions are never ever good.
When someone justifies anger simply by "Islam is good", stakes are high he has not even had a peak at Islamic scriptures, if not at any monotheistic scriptures at all. Let's call it "a form of blind, unreflected sympathy". Ask him for one good reason why Islam should be better than Judaism and Christianism, Buddhism, Taoism...he won't be able to tell you.
What I find very dangerous is this endless classification thing. You know what it leads us to? Statements like "All Germans are Nazis.", "Muslim terrorists have a beard and read prayer books everywhere they go."...do you remember where you last heard it? You're right - Nazi Germany, reading books for school: "The Jew's nose is like a six, easily to recognize. The Jew brigns evil to us.". I am so tired of this - why could there be the WTC crash? Because the terrorists led a normal life, because they did not wear a beard and went with prayer books. Because it happens in the head.
What I see is that many people are simply not ready yet to sit down at the table and talk. Talking requires a level of readiness to listen to the other, to articulate thoughts in a respectful manner and refrain from constantly pushing below the belt line when running out of appropriate arguments. This is frustrating - mostly because humans are insulting their own intelligence this way. What a shame...I wish for a much better future! Yehiye tov....


Posted by: Avital on March 12, 2003 12:34 PM

Hi friend,

Im muslim, all i want to say is you think america and israel are the good guys? and they are protecting people? you make me sick you zionist....hitler knew what the jews were doing to germany, he saw the way the jews were controlling the money, incharge of all the finance of germany and while the poor germans were struggling to feed themsleves there is a whole lot more i can tell u but i cant be bothered cos my girlfriend is kissin me everywhere. i just want to ask 1 question to you zionist MASON how come all you jews are so rich??? you know why? because you worship the devil and all the black magic you have collected from the ancient times which you practice. Nebuchadnesser, Hitler, Muslims, french, etc etc all hate jews. when judgement day comes you JEWS ARE IN FOR A SUPRISE ! devils will stick is hell burnt cock up your asses. convert now to islam!!! this is the true religion, it was your religion just like the christians (islam that is)until devils men in the form of holy guys altered both religions. Goodbye my fellow jewish friend.

Posted by: Sadiq on March 13, 2003 05:39 PM

Wow! that guy is about as dumb as they could possibly get. His grasp of the English language is worse then even my little brother's(3yrs old).I really liked the whole "until devils men in the form of holy guys" comment. I thought that it really reflected the level of intellegence of him. I guess my point is that I hate stupid ignorant people who mistake their freedom of speech for the universal sign of I give sh*t. Go spout your crap to someone who cares.

Posted by: Scott on March 20, 2003 08:44 AM

David - I assume you were never in a concentration camp, as you were probably not alive at that time (correct me if i am making rash assumptions about your age!). So as it was not in your experience, you should leave the anger to the victims of history. Meanwhile, the new generation should learn to let bygones be bygones. I, myself, am not angry at the Japanese for torturing and killing thousands of British soldiers including my great-grandfather. I am not angry at the Germans for orphaning my grandmother at the age of 14 in an air raid. The holocaust was truly horrendous, yes, but i assume it did not directly involve you.

What I feel I should be angry at are events relevant to today's world; the world that i am starting my adult life in, events that may one day affect me personally. Because of the terrible mistake that was the creation of Israel the world has been left with a tinderbox situation in the Middle East, akin to how the Balkans were in the start of the twentieth century.

If only the Israelis would evacuate the settlements on Palestinian land and definitely stop buliding more, the bulldozing of their property and create a sovreign Palestinian state the Palestinians would in all probability stop blowing themselves up. Then we perhaps would have peace!

It seems that Sharon has never heard of give and take. What does the Israeli policy seek to achieve at the moment? Destruction of the Palestinian people? Creation of more suicide bombers?! In all conflicts, one must try to empathise with the other side. To get onto a bus and detonate a bomb stapped to yourself that would blow your body into little bits would require a strong conviction of one's beliefs, would it not? As Cherie Blair pointed out, these men and women must feel so strongly about how badly Israel is treating them that they can see no other choice but to martyr themselves.

God help us all.

Posted by: adam g on March 21, 2003 06:08 AM

You mask your hate in perfectly articulated sentences, but it is clear you are just as racist as Sadiq.
"Because of the terrible mistake that was the creation of Israel"
??? What a mistake to give the jews a country! They might actually be able to defend themselves now! Your views of terrorists also come clear in your statement
"they can see no other choice but to martyr themselves"
Clearly you consider anyone who blows up a jew to be a martyr. Thank you for using intelligent sentences to put forth hatred. If people don't look hard enough, they might mistake you for an intelligent human being.

Posted by: Delila on April 5, 2003 07:26 AM

I would just like to point out that Nazis were political group, not an ethnic group. There is no way that Nazis can be the ancestors of modern Germans. The man clearly states that he is not proud of his country's history. And also, why do you call him a fascist? He stated that he was against one state invading another. How, then, can he be a fascist? Is it because his "ancestors" were Nazis?

Posted by: Tom on April 16, 2003 01:58 PM

Hello everyone,
This is somewhat of a general reply. I felt compelled to offer my own thoughts on these various issues (the Holocaust, Israel, Palestinian terrorism). Firstly, as someone suggested we do, Jews cannot "let bygones be bygones". History that is forgotten repeats itself. The Holocaust was a disgusting manifestation of virulent anti-Semitic sentiments which have ravaged Europe and much of the world for centuries. Nobody thought the Holocaust could happen there, and then, but it did - and despite what anyone thinks, civilization is not safe from the grasp of hatred and tyranny unless that hatred and tyranny is exposed in truth for what it truly is.
Now, let's move on to Israel. Israel is the most amazing country in the world. It is a democracy which has survived despite attacks from its Arab/Muslim neighbours since the waking hours of its rebirth. Israel has reacted in fairness and with morality to the constant struggle which it is presented with by those who seek to destroy it.
Palestinian terrorists are merely a fifth column of surrounding Arab States, yes, you know, the ones run by despotic dictatorial rulers. Palestinian peoples are living in hard and difficult times, and I sympathize with them. However, these difficult times are a result of Yasser Arafat and company's continual incitement of hatred and violence, as well as his incessant theft of Palestinian money, subsequently keeping many Palestinians in refugee camps. He turned down an offer of Palestinian nationhood, and instead launched a campaign of terror. As a leading Historian said, being Pro-Israel is also being Pro-Palestinian...as the Palestinian people will only thrive and be able to live peacfully once the Israeli government has been allowed to succesfully complete its campaign against Palestinian terror.
Thank you again, and I would be happy to discuss this further by e-mail with those who are interested. Thank you David for setting up this informative and intelligent site, which offers us a window into the true Middle-East.

Posted by: Eric Lander on April 16, 2003 11:07 PM

I am proud of your site, and i feel it hits all my views on the spot. When you look at the facts anyone who is a die hard supporter of palestinians and their deliberate attacks agains civillians has got to be crazy/ anti-semitic. people say terrorism is the only thing the palestinians can do, but it isnt exactly helping their situation and never will. The biggest difference between western governments and Arab, not muslim, but arab governments is that the west at least attacks military not civillians. The arabs need to realize that without oil theyd be worthless and they lie constantly (atrocities in jenin). Thank you for having such a wonderful site.

Posted by: Jared on April 28, 2003 10:40 PM

You suck, you f*cking Jew. By year 2006, the good ol' days of the holocaust will be back in full force, and all you lowlife scum will be wiped out.
Adolf Hitler was an underachiever. This time around there will be no
k!kes left.

And the US will soon be nuked by People's Rep. of China as well.

F*ck you and f*ck Ann Coulter.
And f*ck NASDAQ 1,300;
it was NASDAQ 5,100 under Clinton.

Posted by: The President on May 11, 2003 06:18 AM

I traced back the message from "The President" to an ISP in Germany (www.verat.net). I have contacted the ISP asking if this racist bastard has broken any terms of service by calling for another Holocaust and the destruction of the US. I'll let everyone know what their response is.

I generally try to remove comments that are obscene and call for anyone's murder, but the anti-American and racist message from "The President" is very relevant to this thread.

Posted by: David Melle on May 11, 2003 11:32 AM

Firstly, I want to say that I am shocked to see what kind of terrible hate comments you receive!

But also, just to quote you:

> The only value they'll have is when they become fertilizer and are buried underground.

Now *that* is some serious fascist-style talk from *your* side.. trivializing the value of *any* human's life.
This kind of thinking is really dangerous, filled solely with hatred, so it strikes me. Doesn't matter *who* thinks it - about whoever!
I hope that it was only momentary ire that has evoked your statements!

It is time to take that hard step forward and face your very own country's history of oppression; a history of fighting for a _justified cause_ having turned into *decades* of _screaming injustice_ - which is, believe it or not, fuel in the flames of the fundamentalists' hate against Israel and the US.

You know as well as I do that there are more than a few UN resolutions and requests, having accumulated over the last 40 or so years, demanding to reestablish justice in the region - only to be ignored widely.

Oh, had those _other_ fundamentalists not killed Rabin, maybe it would look less grim today...
I will only quote them, "Yimach Shmo veZikhro", ('his name and remembrance may be extinguished' - if I am informed correctly)- following the same pattern as what you uttered above.

As I said, I trust in your intelligence and that it was only temporary ire and not ideology!!

I wish you peace, and enlightenment! -- for those evil moments of thinking, be it you or your opponents, are harmful to human society. Only 100% unprejudiced and rational, nonviolent dialogue will solve our problems. May mildness and wisdom prevail, no matter what the mindless falcons currently in charge of most people (and I am so sad about that..) may preach!

Posted by: ryt on May 15, 2003 01:17 PM

this is a war Crime against Humanity,

Posted by: Ricky on May 29, 2003 08:22 PM

Does this leftist expect American forces to give a trial to the terrorists the get rib of? If someone shoots at me, i will become my own judge, jury, and executioner

Posted by: Yossi on June 13, 2003 02:58 PM

Great website David, many thanks for all the work you put into it!

However, I have to agree with those posters who chided you for name calling.

Much better to stay calm instead and focus like a laser beam, as Delila does in her response to adam g, that slimy scumba-- oops!

Posted by: tictoc on July 30, 2003 12:05 PM

"i just want to ask 1 question to you zionist MASON how come all you jews are so rich????"

Everyone here has equal opportunity. So if one group becomes so much richer than others it must mean they worked harder or they are more educated. You don't get many employable skills at a terrorist camp and being forced to live in a refugee camp because the extremists need you to be there and suffering so they can have some victims to show the world to further their evil causes sure doesn't help out, either. Which is not a racist statement, more of a statement about different cultures and their beliefs and work ethics.


"devils will stick is hell burnt cock up your asses. convert now to islam!!!"

You are clearly an extremely frustrated closet homosexual. And please, do not try to blame that on the Americans or on Jews. We did NOT make you gay. Loosen up, pretty boy, we do not judge you for your gay, ass pirating ways, so try to have a little tolerance for everyone else.


"If only the Israelis would evacuate the settlements on Palestinian land and definitely stop buliding more, the bulldozing of their property and create a sovreign Palestinian state the Palestinians would in all probability stop blowing themselves up. Then we perhaps would have peace! "

Hey, now that is a great idea! Why hasn't anyone thought of that before? Oh wait, they have offered that to Palestine, over and over and over. With only one condition; STOP KILLING INNOCENT ISRAELIS. Arafat keeps turning all of that down. I can only assume form this that the hatred of the Jews so strong that killing them is much more important than making a happy, peaceful and secure life for them and their children? However, it is not for all Palestinians. Some really want peace, some are TRUE Muslims and one day, these people will be fed up with the violence and the use of their religion for evil purposes and rise up against you.

"It seems that Sharon has never heard of give and take."

Sure he has. Israel gives and Palestine says it is not enough and blows up some more innocent people.

" To get onto a bus and detonate a bomb stapped to yourself that would blow your body into little bits would require a strong conviction of one's beliefs, would it not? As Cherie Blair pointed out, these men and women must feel so strongly about how badly Israel is treating them that they can see no other choice but to martyr themselves."

Any child taught to hate from the day it is born and every day after that will become a dysfunctional mess. And so will any child that is taught it's entire life that it is a victim and can only be released from his victimhood by killing innocent Jews. No matter where this child lives or what the true conditions around him are. This is some very basic psychology. Palestinians are destroying the emotional and mental health of their children with all of this. And then they praise the ones that commit murder and suicide. I think if I were a Palestinian child I would kill myself, too. The stuff they are bombarded with by those that claim to love them is horrendous and a violation of the basic human rights that these kids deserve.

"By year 2006, the good ol' days of the holocaust will be back in full force, and all you lowlife scum will be wiped out.
Adolf Hitler was an underachiever. This time around there will be no "

I doubt it. Islamic terrorists are now targeting the real Muslims. In Saudi Arabia they had even booby trapped Qu'rans to blow up on those that open them. In Iraq they have now blown up a very important Shia shrine. More and more of the world is seeing how it really is and joining the war against terrorism. The true Muslim religion is being attacked and slandered and used in horrible, evil ways by the extremists and more and more of them are realizing this. They are not stupid. More and more real information is being made available to them every day. They are less and less kept in the dark to see and read only the news allowed by dictators. One day they WILL rise up against the extremists. And THAT my friend, is when the REAL JIHAD begins.

Posted by: Cherice on September 1, 2003 04:14 AM

Hey, dont let this one email by this jerk give you an opinion about all Germans. Its not nice how you comment on him and then generalize his nationality.
I support Israel very strongly and Im not the only German as far as I know.

Posted by: Vince on May 30, 2004 04:41 PM

Hi Vince,

Please be specific: where do you see me generalizing against all Germans?

I have not generalized and I did not say that all Germans today are leftists fascists.

That said, the German Nazis from the 30s and 40s were fascists. And many leftists in Germany today are fascists: they support an ideology which calls for the destruction of Israel and the capitalist United States and wish for the murder of millions.

Thanks for your support: I have other German friends who support Israel and support the United States in the war against Islamic terror.

Posted by: David Melle on May 30, 2004 06:04 PM

I am German and I actually do not agree with what Mr Kiewitz said (bombing Israel and that Americans are evil and so on). I also can not deny that jewish Germans have problems with being accepted, which is kind of mentally retarded as the difference between me, for example, and a jew ain't that big (I look like one and I agree totally with Kafka and other jewish writters). I also have not seen the film you were talking about and I have not read your (I quote) "funny comments". And I think it is really difficult do understand what's really going on in Israel (especially when you don't live there), that's why I try to shut up about this issue. But I find it quite interesting that the fact that Mr. Kiewitz is German seems to be so important to you(all). He probably lacks a little bit of brains, but not because he's German. There are so many retarded and anti-social people arround that I really don't care for where they come from. yours sincerely

Posted by: Nadine Zitzmann on October 5, 2004 04:08 PM

I am German and I actually do not agree with what Mr Kiewitz said (bombing Israel and that Americans are evil and so on). I also can not deny that jewish Germans have problems with being accepted, which is kind of mentally retarded as the difference between me, for example, and a jew ain't that big (I look like one and I agree totally with Kafka and other jewish writters). I also have not seen the film you were talking about and I have not read your (I quote) "funny comments". And I think it is really difficult do understand what's really going on in Israel (especially when you don't live there), that's why I try to shut up about this issue. But I find it quite interesting that the fact that Mr. Kiewitz is German seems to be so important to you(all). He probably lacks a little bit of brains, but not because he's German. There are so many retarded and anti-social people arround that I really don't care for where they come from. yours sincerely

Posted by: Nadine on October 5, 2004 04:09 PM

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I DID do the math, and...

Where are you getting the 30,000 people killed per day? If that were true, wouldn't the killings only have gone on for 200 days?

Posted by: Alison on October 24, 2004 12:08 PM

Alison,

Thanks for your comment. You are right, I calculated the number of roughly 30,000 per day based on 200 days of mass murdering by the German Nazis.

We know the "final solution" was planned by the Nazis in the Wannsee Conference held in January 1942.

From what I know, it actually took them about a year and half to prepare the concentration camps and start the mass execution of Jews in the gas chambers; this takes us to mid 1943 (although from what I know, roughly one million Jews had already been murderered by other means by the end of 1942).

The official end of World War II was April 30, 1945, but the massacre of Jews had stopped months before since many Nazis were trying to cover up the Holocaust. Also, not every camp actually murderered Jews every day.

With all of the above info, I came up with the 200 full days of Jews being murdered. I cannot prove this, but I believe 6,000,000 is just a number that doesn't clearly show how horrible the Holocaust was.

Breaking it down to something visual (a baseball or football stadium full of people), can help folks better see the enormity of the hate and death executed by German Nazis.

So how about this: instead of 30,000 Jews being murdered every day, how about a football stadium filled up with 30,000 people being killed in one day... 200 times! Or how about "smaller" football fields filled up with 15,000 people being killed in one day... 400 times!

The enormity of the Holocaust executed by the German Nazis is beyond our comprehension, yet the leftist German fascist has the audacity to criticize America and Israel for going after a dozen Islamic Supremacists whose only goal is to kill women and children.

Such European leftist hypocrisy made me sick and that's the reason I was trying to put things into perspective.

Posted by: David Melle on October 25, 2004 05:31 PM

Hey "The President", don't go there. Ann Coulter rocks.

And while it may be quite inflammatory for someone to call another a freak, in the case of someone defending the murder of 12 million people, I can see where some definite righteous rage is coming through here.

But look on the bright side, it looks like the Left has finally realized that Nazi stands for "National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party".

Posted by: Nora on December 13, 2004 05:06 PM

Heres how I see the Arab peoples. In our bible, Abram and Sari became impatient to perform Gods will (they had been waiting 70 some years to give birth to a special child), after God informed them they would have a child that would recieve Abrams passed on blessings and, a nation that will multiply more numerous than grains of sand ,in number. The Arabs are not this spiritually God blessed nation of people. Sari offered up her maid Habuk (she was of a black race), to bear a child for Abram, wasnt gods plan. Later ,God changed Abrams and Saris names to Abraham & Sarah after god fulfilled HIS plan with the birth of Isaac. Habuks child was also blessed by God but his nation of people God called the children of the flesh. They were to be blessed with richs but, not his chosen people. The Arab nation is todays children of the flesh. This nation is still here with the world today for a couple of reasons, to fulfill profiecy and there is still it least one christian living as a people among them. God will not destroy a people if there is but one left thats rightous in the crowd. See Sodom and Gomorah. Since Gods thoughts are not like ours (per scripture) and we are not to judge, lets treat the hate mail writers as lost lambs and not judge anyone lest we be judged. Its true the Abrabs god is a false god so lets show them ours. This fighting is really about powers and principalitys and it started in heavon when Lucifer fell from grace.

We can as a people turn our cheek but also fight like a lion if its slapped too much. We can defend when attacked and we can kill to prevent killing.


God Bless, Rob

Posted by: Rob on February 3, 2006 02:23 PM
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